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On the Positive Enterprise Value Podcast, I get a chance to interview some of the most amazing and interesting Entrepreneur Owner-Managers (EOMs) on the planet and deconstruct some of their entrepreneurial journey…from disrupting their industries to being a game changer in their industries to potentially having a capital gain and using the liquidity from that to fuel the next chapters of their lives. Today you will hear my interview with Bill Perkins. Bill is a well-known energy trader who graduated from the University of Iowa with an electrical engineering degree, who quickly pivoted and joined New York Mercantile Exchange as an energy trader. Over the next 10 to 15 years, he worked and played in that world causing him to have certain experiences that changed his views on the world. His views and learnings from that time are reflected in his book, which is called Die with Zero. A book I love but hate the title of because I find it to be limiting in conveying what the book is all about….so much more than just dying with zero. My friend Ed Wilson humorously suggested that the book be titled “Die with Zero Regrets.”
Bill was the featured speaker at the 2024 Bigelow Forum, where we brought together about 100 EOMs and their spouses from across the country to think about some of the themes in Die with Zero and challenge our current thinking. Some of the themes from Die with Zero, include for example, as you accumulate value in your life, the question of why? Are you over saving? When do you share some of this with your philanthropic causes or with your children? Are you trying to be your own insurance company by saving for your mortality or saving for your longevity? Bill was extremely provocative at the Bigelow Forum. We had a great time both hearing his keynote to us for about an hour as well as the live podcast interview done just after his talk, which is really a series of questions from the audience that I know you're going to love. So, without any further ado I hope you enjoy Bill Perkins as much as I do.
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We also thought you would enjoy seeing a brief highlight reel from the 2024 Bigelow Forum!
What I am Reading / Listening to
From time to time many of my friends/acquaintances ask me what podcasts I listen to regularly, so here’s a summary list I thought you might enjoy as well:
Design is everywhere in our lives, perhaps most importantly in the places where we've just stopped noticing. 99% Invisible is a weekly exploration of the process and power of design and architecture.
Conversations with Tyler by Tyler Cowan.
You can’t imitate a worldview. But you can form your own by listening and learning (and learning how to listen). On the Conversations with Tyler podcast, produced by the Mercatus Center at George Mason University, celebrated polymath, blogger, and academic economist Tyler Cowen explores the minds and methods of today’s top thinkers. Tyler’s intense research leads to stimulating and surprising questions that provoke guests into deep examinations of their work and how they see the world. Eager to exploit their insights? All you have to do is listen.
EconTalk: Conversations for the Curious is an award-winning weekly podcast hosted by Russ Roberts of Shalem College in Jerusalem and Stanford's Hoover Institution. The eclectic guest list includes authors, doctors, psychologists, historians, philosophers, economists, and more. Learn how the health care system really works, the serenity that comes from humility, the challenge of interpreting data, how potato chips are made, what it's like to run an upscale Manhattan restaurant, what caused the 2008 financial crisis, the nature of consciousness, and more. EconTalk has been taking the Monday out of Mondays since 2006. All 900+ episodes are available in the archive. Go to EconTalk.org for transcripts, related resources, and comments.
Exponential Wisdom by Dan Sullivan and Peter Diamandis.
Dan Sullivan of Strategic Coach® and Peter Diamandis of XPRIZE / Singularity University discuss how exponential technologies are creating massive opportunities for entrepreneurs all over the world.
Finding Mastery by Michael Gervais.
The Finding Mastery Podcast takes you inside the minds of the world’s most extraordinary thinkers and doers.
Freakonomics Radio by Stephen Dubner.
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Inner Cosmos by David Eagleman.
Neuroscientist and author David Eagleman discusses how our brain interprets the world and what that means for us. Through storytelling, research, interviews, and experiments, David Eagleman tackles wild questions that illuminate new facets of our lives and our realities.
Jocko Podcast by Jocko Willink.
Retired Navy SEAL, Jocko Willink and Director, Echo Charles discuss discipline and leadership in business, war, relationships and everyday life.
The Knowledge Project by Shane Parrish.
Host Shane Parrish uncovers the wisdom of the world’s top performers. Packed with self-improvement strategies, insights, and fresh perspectives, each episode teaches you the small changes that lead to big results. Whether you’re seeking to accelerate your personal growth, navigate complex challenges at work, or simply live a more meaningful life, The Knowledge Project Podcast is the mentor you’ve always wanted.
Join neuroscientist, philosopher, and five-time New York Times best-selling author Sam Harris as he explores important and controversial questions about the mind, society, current events, moral philosophy, religion, and rationality—with an overarching focus on how a growing understanding of ourselves and the world is changing our sense of how we should live.
Join the New York Times bestselling author of The Untethered Soul, The Surrender Experiment, and Living Untethered for this free series of curated teaching sessions, recorded at his Temple of the Universe yoga and meditation center.
The Moment with Brian Koppelman.
Interviews about the pivotal moments that fueled fascinating creative careers. Hosted by Brian Koppelman.
Motivational Interviewing & Beyond with Joel Porter, Steve Rollnick and Friends.
Joel Porter and Steve Rollnick host Motivational Interviewing & Beyond (MIB) a free monthly webinar. The MIB podcast it is the uncut and full webinar for easy listening. The conversations we facilitate are about all things and more related to Motivational Interviewing. Our aim to is ask more questions and stimulate thinking rather than provide answers and solutions The invited guests, spontaneous panelists and questions from the audience take the conversation into deep and unplanned directions.
Multiplier Mindset with Dan Sullivan.
Entrepreneurial expert and champion of big-idea entrepreneurs everywhere, Dan Sullivan operates from a growth mindset that knows no bounds. An exponential thinker to the core, Dan shares his wisdom, insights, and latest thinking on all things “entrepreneur” with business owners who want to multiply their freedom and success.
Naval Ravikant is a renowned entrepreneur, investor, and philosopher who has become a prominent voice in the business world.
Twice a week, award-winning journalist Kara Swisher gets to the heart of the story through no-holds-barred interviews with power players across business, tech, media, politics and beyond. So why do her guests show up? “Smart people,” says Kara, “like difficult questions.”
People I (Mostly) Admire with Steve Levitt.
Freakonomics co-author Steve Levitt tracks down other high achievers for surprising, revealing conversations about their lives and obsessions. Join Levitt as he goes through the most interesting midlife crisis you’ve ever heard — and learn how a renegade sheriff is transforming Chicago’s jail, how a biologist is finding the secrets of evolution in the Arctic tundra, and how a trivia champion memorized 160,000 flashcards.
The Peter Attia Drive is a deep-dive podcast focusing on maximizing longevity, and all that goes into that from physical to cognitive to emotional health. With over 90 million episodes downloaded, it features topics including exercise, nutritional biochemistry, cardiovascular disease, Alzheimer’s disease, cancer, mental health, and much more.
The Drive is hosted by Dr. Peter Attia, a Stanford/Johns Hopkins/NIH-trained physician focusing on the applied science of longevity, the extension of human life and well-being.
The Psychology Podcast with Scott Kauffman.
The Psychology Podcast with Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman, where we give you insights into the mind, brain, behavior and creativity. Each episode will feature a guest who will stimulate your mind, and give you a greater understanding of yourself, others, and the world we live in. Hopefully, we’ll also provide a glimpse into human possibility! Thanks for listening and enjoy the podcast.
Sounds True: Insights at the Edge with Tami Simon.
Spiritual Teachings, where Tami Simon, Founder and Publisher of Sounds True interviews spiritual teachers, visionary writers, and living luminaries about their newest work and current challenges—the growing edge of their inner inquiry and outer contribution to the world.
Tetragrammaton with Rick Rubin.
In-depth interviews that may blow your mind with Rick Rubin, famed record executive and record producer. He is a co-founder of Def Jam Recordings, founder of American Recordings, and former co-president of Columbia Records. On Tetragrammaton, he invites neurosurgeons, entrepreneurs, sports coaches, comedians, and more. It's varied, fresh, and insightful.
Tim Ferriss is a self-experimenter and bestselling author, best known for The 4-Hour Workweek, which has been translated into 40+ languages. Newsweek calls him "the world's best human guinea pig," and The New York Times calls him "a cross between Jack Welch and a Buddhist monk." In this show, he deconstructs world-class performers from eclectic areas (investing, chess, pro sports, etc.), digging deep to find the tools, tactics, and tricks that listeners can use.
“Why live an ordinary life, when you can live an extraordinary one?” Tony Robbins, the #1 Life and Business Strategist, has helped over 50 million people from 100 countries create real and lasting change in their lives. In this podcast, he shares proven strategies and tactics so you, too, can achieve massive results in your business, relationships, health and finances. In addition to excerpts from his signature events and other exclusive, never-before-released audio content, Tony and his team also conduct deeply insightful interviews with the most prominent masterminds and experts on the global stage.
The Twenty Minute VC (20VC) with Harry Stebbings.
The Twenty Minute VC (20VC) interviews the world's greatest venture capitalists with prior guests including Sequoia's Doug Leone and Benchmark's Bill Gurley. Once per week, 20VC Host, Harry Stebbings is also joined by one of the great founders of our time with prior founder episodes from Spotify's Daniel Ek, Linkedin's Reid Hoffman, and Snowflake's Frank Slootman.
Organizational psychologist Adam Grant takes you inside the minds of some of the world’s most unusual professionals to explore the science of making work not suck. From learning how to love criticism to harnessing the power of frustration, one thing’s for sure: You’ll never see your job the same way again.
Entrepreneur Owner-Manager Quote
“You and your team did excellent work on the transaction. Thank you for bringing so much talent and attention to detail. We would have never gotten this done without you.”
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